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Do you know the rules for maximum vehicle length for stinger steered auto haulers? Is it by state or federal? We got an over length violation, the truck/trailer, bumper to bumper was 74 1/2 feet (rules allow 75). We are allowed 3 feet overhang on the front and 4 feet on the rear, which was also OK. What the cop said wasn't OK, is that the rear lower deck was slid out about 2 feet, making the total truck/trailer length 76 1/2 feet.
Anyone who hauls cars, knows that you have to have the rear slider out far enough to get the wheel straps on (or there is nothing to secure the car to).
So I guess the question would be, does a sliding deck count as over hang or included in the vehicle length? I was always under the impression that they measure bumper to bumper. The rear sliders only go out to secure the load, so they are over hang.
This is the first over length ticket we've gotten and have been through many DOT checks loaded the same way and were never bothered before. If this cop is right, we will never legally be able to haul 11 cars unless they're compact cars.
Registered Member #1184 Joined: Wed Aug 01 2012, 09:19AM Posts: 7
Size and weight laws are specific to each state with federal guidelines for what is allowed on interstate and/or other federally funded roads within the state. So in most cases, max lengths allowed on the interstate highways in each state will be the same.You are correct, 75' is the correct max length for a stinger steered car hauler. However, I am leaning toward the officer's judgement because...
Determination of the trailer length is made by "load bearing surface". By having the rear slider out, you extended the rear most "load bearing surface" and in turn your total length to 76 1/2 feet.
The overhang allowance doesn't get you off the hook because it is only for part of the load that extends beyond the "load bearing surface". Decks and ramps are a load bearing part of the trailer, not part of the load, therefore cannot be considered overhang.
Sounds like you may have been lucky this far, or maybe the jurisdiction where you got the ticket just tightened up their size and weight enforcement... good luck.
Thanks, I'll let you know how they make out, they are fighting it. We've gotten different answers from several people, but Cottrell (the trailer manufacturer) stands firm on the bumper to bumper measurement.
This is a grey area in the rules, but our company is leaning toward Cotrells answer, since they build the trailer. This could have a huge impact on profits. If we cannot extend the rear sliders at all, it will reduce our loads by two cars each.
It's odd becasue Connecticuit has been known for being very stict in overlength and we've never been ticketed or warned. This one was in NY.
I'll post the results. I don't know if this will actually make it to court or not at this point, Cottrell is supposed to contact the officer and talk with him about it, which could help or make things worse.
Well, the ticket was dropped. Our owner talked to the cop today after Cottrell and I guess he agreed with them. The rear of the trailer is the tail light boxes. We are allowed a 4' over hang from there. The slider is considered overhang.
The same deal on the front. The tractor bumper is the front of the truck. Even though the head rack sticks out past the bumper, it is overhang. As long as the car over the cab is no more than 3 feet past the bumper, it's OK. It doesn't matter how far the rack is out.
Thanks for the reply, it's funny how different some of the rules are for car haulers than other types of trucking, and confusing too.
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Another victory! States can have different policies and interpretations and I know in some states they will write those all day. I have dealt with Cottrell and they do a good job of backing their products and working with DOT.
I hear that. We had a 2007 Sterling and the reverse light just turned on the load lights on the back of the cab. Our driver got a warning for it, the reverse light was "supposed" to be in the back with the tail lights. That is the way Sterling built the truck, we did not change anything. That was another one that never mad it to court.
We've actually been really lucky with inspections. By lucky, I mean that we haven't had many bogus write ups or jerky cops. We have a good maintenance program and do our best to follow the rules, so we don't have many issues. Our drivers are all pretty decent people too, (hot heads tend to get more tickets).
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